Sv: lit-ideas Digest V12 #3

It's about, it's about relations, it's about relations of the prior kind, it's about the relations of the kind prior to the actual, it's about the relations of the actual relations of the kind prior to the current, it's about the current relations priot to the ctual.

Who fathered the man, prior to the actual? Who actualized the father, prior to the man? Who prioritized the actual, prior to the factual? Who related the factual prior to the actual?

It's about, it's about how to, it's about how to imagine, it's about how to imagine the actual beyond the factual, about how to realize the current after the patrial, how to not to realize the phatual phantastisc phantasmatic

Yrs,

-phatic

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lit-ideas Digest    Sat, 03 Jan 2015    Volume: 12  Issue: 003

In This Issue:
        [lit-ideas] for sage susan lawrence, -thank you
        [lit-ideas] RIP Miller Williams....
        [lit-ideas] Re: RIP Miller Williams....
        [lit-ideas] Re: Sv: lit-ideas Digest V11 #287

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From: Adriano Palma <Palma@ukzn.ac.za>
Subject: [lit-ideas] for sage susan lawrence, -thank you
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 06:50:32 +0000


] Returning to her again



            Sage rested on the soft
            Sand of the trail, her mouth
            Gaping, her tongue aquiver,
            Her eyes half-closed, and
            Ahead through the trees
            Were more places to rest,
            Sand at an easy pace.

            Returning to her again
            Waiting on along
            Looking back my only
            One back then again
            I've never accepted
            This dying of sage,
            Finding another in her place,

            And Susan
            Waking as she once did
            With bright eyes and clear
            Sweet smile, but
            A little while left
            And we'll both begin again,
            Or someone will.

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Subject: [lit-ideas] RIP Miller Williams....
From: Ursula Stange <ursula@stange.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 13:36:26 -0500

The story about Hank Williams is worth reading in this article about the death of Miller Williams, and the poems, of course.  But the reason I'm posting this is for the somewhat lengthy tribute in the comments below which connects to something that Mike Geary posted about how he judges the success of poems.  So well said....a lesson in honesty and brevity. 
http://m.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2015/01/02/rip-miller-williams-1930-2015




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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:45:34 -0600
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: RIP Miller Williams....
From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@gmail.com>

Thank you for posting that Ursula.  I've been an avid, devoted fan of
Lucinda Williams for quite awhile, but knew nothing of her father.  His
poems certainly do resonate in me.  I will get a collection pronto.  I see
that at some point he and his family lived in Hoxie, Ar which is about 14
miles south of Pocahontas, Ar where I lived for 4 years back in the 50's.
Wish I'd known that at the time, I would have gone a courtin' on Lucinda.
I think I have all her recordings.  She's wonderful.  Hell of a lot talent
between them.
Thanks again.


On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Ursula Stange <ursula@stange.com> wrote:

> The story about Hank Williams is worth reading in this article about the
> death of Miller Williams, and the poems, of course.  But the reason I'm
> posting this is for the somewhat lengthy tribute in the comments below
> which connects to something that Mike Geary posted about how he judges the
> success of poems.  So well said....a lesson in honesty and brevity.
>
>
> http://m.arktimes.com/RockCandy/archives/2015/01/02/rip-miller-williams-1930-2015
>
>
>



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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2015 14:50:03 -0600
Subject: [lit-ideas] Re: Sv: lit-ideas Digest V11 #287
From: Mike Geary <jejunejesuit.geary2@gmail.com>

Bravo, Lawrence.

On Thu, Jan 1, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Torgeir Fjeld <torgeir_fjeld@yahoo.no>
wrote:

> The term Mindful has gone viral. Does it have any content beyond "aware"?
> When you have acheived your freedom -- as in having nothing left to loose
> -- it is time for serenity and contemplation.
>
> Med vennlig hilsen / Yours sincerely,
>
> Torgeir Fjeld
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>        [lit-ideas] Sentry duty on dark nights
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> Subject: [lit-ideas] Sentry duty on dark nights
> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 11:52:48 -0800
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>            Coming home for weekend Liberty
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>            At eighteen seemed intolerable.  El Toro
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>            Was nothing like the getting away
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>            I had planned, months of training for
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>            A short ride home?  It wouldn't be
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>            Like that in Korea.  I planned
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>            A transfer to the thirty-eighth,
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>
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>            But there were a few I knew
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>            To drink with and not much else
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>            To do even I heard at the front.
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>            I had managed to get a long
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>            Way from home.  I stood in a pouring
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>            Rain at post five on the north-east corner
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>
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>            Beyond a rice paddy filled to over-flowing
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>            When something changed.  I held my
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>            M1 pointed down cloaked myself
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>            In shadow and knew I'd be able
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>            To see it before it saw me.  On dark nights
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>            Still I often enter your room and wait until
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>            I see a sign that you're still breathing.
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>            Attracted to Stoicism did I
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>            Elide it to experience
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>            Desire, or did I abandon it
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>            And return to what I was
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>            All along?  I did not keep
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>            It up.  Desire for
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>            You satisfied
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>            My curiosity.
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>            On the other hand
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>            I have not returned
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>            To Stoicism,
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>            Fearing instead
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>            The dread
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>            Of losing you.
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The idol that is fear

We must make an idol of our fear, and call it god. The Seventh Seal Sendt fra Yahoo Mail på Android

Forecast

The forecast says blizzard

The forecast says earthquake

The forecast says mountains block the path

The forecast says floods

And yet the blizzard wears a nice hat

And yet the earthquake has ample savings

And yet the mountains enter long cars

And yet the floods have the police at their disposal

(B Brecht)

*

It's somewhat curious that the architects of  the s.c project for a new American century were very well versed in Lenin -- as if knowing or even appreciating the great masters of Marxism didn't give a direct (i.e. necessary) relation to a Stalinist programme.

Brecht would himself know intimately what it was like being persecuted by a party line. Before the failed putsch in Munich his name had been put on a list of people scheduled for incarceration. As you may know he famously fled Germany in the 1930s, lived in Denmark for a number of years, before taking refuge in the US, where he was marshalled before the Committee of Un-American activities during the McCarthy-regime.

Peace in Bosnia Herzegovina (Allen Ginsberg, 1993)

General Mother Teresa
Emperor Dalai Lama XIV
Chief of Staff Thich Nhat Hanh
Army Chaplain John Paul II

followed by the shades of Ghandi
Sakharov, Sartre & his uncle
Albert Schweitzer

went to the bombed out streets
talked to Moslem Bosnians in
the burnt out grocery stores

parlayed with Croatian & Serbian Generals & Parliament

asked them to quit shooting & firing
artillery from the mountainside

overlooking villages
emptied of grandmothers --

So now there was quiet -- a few fires
smoldered in back alleys

a few corpses stank in wet fields
-- But who owns these houses? The
cinema theatres with broken doors?

Who owns that grocery store, that City Hall,
that windowless school with broken
rooftiles?

Who owns these little apartments, now
all worshippers of Allah

pray in towns besieged 100 miles away
overcrowded in tenements & tents, with
UN portosans at the crossroads?

Who owns these abandoned alleys &
drugstores with shattered bottle shards over
the sidewalk & inside the door?

Who'll be the judge, attorney, file
legal briefs,

bankruptcy papers, affidavits of ownership,
deeds, old tax receipts?

Who'll council who lives where in the rubble,
who'll sleep in what brokenwalled hut

in the full moonlight when spring clouds
pass over the face
of the man in the moon at the end of May?

May 6, 1993, 3AM

Allen Ginsberg (1926-1997),

poet, icon, prophet

it is the moral authority of abstinence over greed that keeps austerity alive as a viable alternative

(1) does decreasing government spending in times of Great Recession renew economic growth?

(2) the dismal track record of austerity policies over the course of their long history: from Aristotle to Margaret Thatcher, no argument against spending has ever successfully refuted the Keynesian logic of anti-cyclical government stimulus.

(3) austerity’s long life is due to its moral and political underpinnings – not to economic justification. The moral authority of abstinence over greed has kept austerity alive in public discourse despite empirical shortcomings.

On Florian Schui, _Austerity: the Great Failure_ (Yale UP, 2013).

Nancy on the "just meaning" of the ex-istant

"For [Jean-Luc] Nancy, sense is there, like the world, 'just like that', as he puts it. This 'just like that' means that existence is ungrounded, that we are 'just' open to existence and to the world. The 'just' is of course the whole problem. At a time when every 'us' is under suspicion and we allegedly live in a 'crisis of sense', the evidence of 'we' and/or 'sense' is so to speak no 'common sense'. For Nancy, this so-called crisis makes clear that we are, that existence is nothing but sense: 'One must think against the times, or despite the times, since it is still the time of the crisis' (Nancy, 1997a: 15). In other words, that there is sense and that we are there is the radical consequence of the unfolded space that the 'global' world is to us today."

Ignaas Devisch, "The Sense of Being(-)With Jean-Luc Nancy," _Culture Machine,_ Vol 8 (2006). http://www.culturemachine.net/index.php/cm/article/viewArticle/36/44

But: Doesn't Nancy's assertion that we' re "just open" to meaning entail some kind of non-dualist system ala Berkeley (esse est perciipi) or perhaps Derrida (there's nothing outside language) positing reference sans refererer?

phatic

Florida

Lost & profound

definiendum, witt-knit, v definians, 1. to knit an abject so as to resemble the figure of Witt, the pduct of which is referred to as _a_ witt-knitt; 2. to knit in such a manner as to be consistend with that of Witt.